Comments on: P2P Business Platforms and the Story of Digital Identity http://technopod.wordpress.com/2006/06/06/p2p-business-platforms-and-the-story-of-digital-identity/ Continuing the Conversation Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:30:26 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Muli Koppel http://technopod.wordpress.com/2006/06/06/p2p-business-platforms-and-the-story-of-digital-identity/#comment-13 Muli Koppel Thu, 08 Jun 2006 11:33:45 +0000 https://technopod.wordpress.com/2006/06/06/p2p-business-platforms-and-the-story-of-digital-identity/#comment-13 Hi Aldo Thanks for your comment. Probably I don't get you, but the fact that we're exchanging ideas about your podcast without knowing each other, seems to me very similar to your book exchange anecdote. And I would attribute this human touch to the social effects of web2.0, or the web as we are currently living in, rather than to Sxip, Yadis or InfoCards… Moreover, if you were given the possibility to verify and validate certain aspects of your co-blogger's Digital Identity, there's a chance that you wouldn't engage yourself in that book exchange – who knows, maybe his <b>Reputation</b> would've been awful? Once we start relying on Information Technologies, we are progressively forgetting our human instincts. With Google we stopped remembering, and with digital identity we just might stop trusting each other. We will let the infrastructure do the judgment for us. So yes, I think Digital Identity is critical and essential for Business Transactions, and therefore I assume I'd be using it one day or another. And I think that service providers, who want to make more money, are those who push and finance this effort of Digital Identity and that all this story has nothing to do with the benefit of us, nor that it will give us any control whatsoever on anything. To make this story (of digital Identity :-)) short, it is a fascinating theme and I am thanking you for your highly important role in imparting that knowledge. muli p.s. the image's link is ok now. Hi Aldo

Thanks for your comment.

Probably I don’t get you, but the fact that we’re exchanging ideas about your podcast without knowing each other, seems to me very similar to your book exchange anecdote. And I would attribute this human touch to the social effects of web2.0, or the web as we are currently living in, rather than to Sxip, Yadis or InfoCards…

Moreover, if you were given the possibility to verify and validate certain aspects of your co-blogger’s Digital Identity, there’s a chance that you wouldn’t engage yourself in that book exchange – who knows, maybe his Reputation would’ve been awful?

Once we start relying on Information Technologies, we are progressively forgetting our human instincts. With Google we stopped remembering, and with digital identity we just might stop trusting each other. We will let the infrastructure do the judgment for us.

So yes, I think Digital Identity is critical and essential for Business Transactions, and therefore I assume I’d be using it one day or another. And I think that service providers, who want to make more money, are those who push and finance this effort of Digital Identity and that all this story has nothing to do with the benefit of us, nor that it will give us any control whatsoever on anything.

To make this story (of digital Identity :-) ) short, it is a fascinating theme and I am thanking you for your highly important role in imparting that knowledge.

muli

p.s. the image’s link is ok now.

]]> By: storyofdigid http://technopod.wordpress.com/2006/06/06/p2p-business-platforms-and-the-story-of-digital-identity/#comment-11 storyofdigid Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:41:04 +0000 https://technopod.wordpress.com/2006/06/06/p2p-business-platforms-and-the-story-of-digital-identity/#comment-11 I agree with parts of what you've written above. However I'm not sure that it's accurate to sa y that the default is "dis-trust". That might be true in very high value transactions but I think it's at least less true in other contexts. For example, I have had many interactions with people involved in digital identity technologies many of whom I've never met. Recently I read one of these individuals blog posts and it was clear from that post that they'd benefit from a book that I own. We had an exchange about the book and I offered to lend it to him. He lives in Canada and I in the U.S. My default was trust because I've built a high degree of trust in this individual without ever having "met" him. While this is only one discrete example, as we spend more of our time online and as systems are more adept at allowing use to expose aspects of our identities in more standardized ways I believe these types of examples will not only increase in frequency, they will also increase in complexity (number of parties involved) and richness (more value being exchanged). So perhaps we come to different conclusions about digital identity? I agree that it has a lot to do with marketing and advertising but it has equally profound effects in other areas as well, in my opinion. The second category will clearly take longer to develop that's for sure. -Aldo P.S. Thanks for the kind words about the podcast and thanks for listening! I agree with parts of what you’ve written above. However I’m not sure that it’s accurate to sa y that the default is “dis-trust”. That might be true in very high value transactions but I think it’s at least less true in other contexts. For example, I have had many interactions with people involved in digital identity technologies many of whom I’ve never met. Recently I read one of these individuals blog posts and it was clear from that post that they’d benefit from a book that I own. We had an exchange about the book and I offered to lend it to him. He lives in Canada and I in the U.S.

My default was trust because I’ve built a high degree of trust in this individual without ever having “met” him. While this is only one discrete example, as we spend more of our time online and as systems are more adept at allowing use to expose aspects of our identities in more standardized ways I believe these types of examples will not only increase in frequency, they will also increase in complexity (number of parties involved) and richness (more value being exchanged).

So perhaps we come to different conclusions about digital identity? I agree that it has a lot to do with marketing and advertising but it has equally profound effects in other areas as well, in my opinion. The second category will clearly take longer to develop that’s for sure.

-Aldo

P.S. Thanks for the kind words about the podcast and thanks for listening!

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